From sentto-64825-19184-1036897841-cantsin=zedat.fu-berlin.de@returns.groups.yahoo.com Sun Nov 10 12:13:41 2002 From paragram Sun Nov 10 12:13:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.1.48] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.9.11) for paragram@localhost (single-drop); Sun, 10 Nov 2002 12:13:41 +0100 (CET) Received: by Mail.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (Smail3.2.0.98) from n23.grp.scd.yahoo.com (66.218.66.79) with smtp id ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 04:10:43 +0100 (MET) X-eGroups-Return: sentto-64825-19184-1036897841-cantsin=zedat.fu-berlin.de@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.200] by n23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Nov 2002 03:10:41 -0000 X-Sender: netwurker@hotkey.net.au X-Apparently-To: webartery@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 10 Nov 2002 03:10:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 37038 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2002 03:10:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Nov 2002 03:10:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pop.hotkey.net.au) (202.138.0.50) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2002 03:10:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 17046 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2002 03:10:38 -0000 Received: from 243.c.007.syd.iprimus.net.au (HELO netwurker.hotkey.net.au) (210.50.178.243) by greenback.hotkey.net.au with SMTP; 10 Nov 2002 03:10:38 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021110140612.026a9e20@pop.hotkey.net.au> X-Sender: netwurker@pop.hotkey.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 To: webartery@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: References: From: "dis.[UR]Locate" X-Yahoo-Profile: mzpm MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list webartery@yahoogroups.com; contact webartery-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list webartery@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 14:12:31 +1100 Subject: Re: [webartery] Fwd: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: "digital we[ave]tting" vs Reply-To: webartery@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: 9";!!74p"!dYg!!`74"! At 02:57 AM 10/11/2002 +0000, you wrote: >if i'm not mistaken, mez here is proposing the works exist in a >certain communicative channel...they're a flow of data////like all >things really are//// _form from_ or even _form form_ >my question would be (and the answer to this would actually help me >distinguish between works): where does the data come from? where does >it flow to? _net.wurks_ u.se[e] information. _in form_ >one can say (as in romanticism): well, the data comes from somewhere >up there: it flows into me, and then out:::::all of which is true//// > up there: no in2: no out: no [a trip.tick.ler of nos]. [think no.dic[k]|x.plosive, la[la laaaa li]terally.] >but the works i like best are those in which data comes from several >sources (not simply repsawning my own): data comes from you, and you, >and you, and you, and you=====and goes to you and you and you and >you//// u & u & u. [ewes & use = cul.pa[lata]ble comprehension]. >this is interesting to me because it's pointing to an epitemology of >net art (or at least an epistemology of mez's work, which interests >me greatly)//// > >but i still don't understand why they're not texts? how would you >define a text, mez? and what is the distinction between that and what >you do? i _net.wurk_. [u text b.coz u r]. [i net.wurk b.coz i am w.here.]. [u purr.[d]sist in b.ing .here.] oppositional here|w.here. . . .... ..... pro][tean][.lapsing.txt . . www.cddc.vt.edu/host/netwurker/ http://www.hotkey.net.au/~netwurker/ http://www.hotkey.net.au/~netwurker/display.myopia.swf .... . .??? ....... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/